BUTCHERS AND COMMERCIAL HOTEL, Brook Street

BUTCHERS' AND COMMERCIAL HOTEL  #

72 (later 42) Brook Street North

Then -  360 Brook Street

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Tel:  87     (1916)

Provided by: Ken Herlingshaw

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MINE HOSTS:

1869 - 71             John Aspden

1876 - 81             James Wilkinson

1881 - 82             Margaret Wilkinson

1882 - 83             Almer Heys

1883 - 90             John Ratcliffe

1890                    John Pope

1890 - 92             Thomas Johnson

1892 - 1904         George Thistleton
1905                    Thomas Faikland (Falkland?)  -  Kelly's Directory.

1905 - 07            Richard Swift

1908 - 14            George Herling - owned by Mr. Sumner.

1914 - 27            Mary Jane Herling

1927 - 32            Frederick Roberts

1936                    Alfred Southworth  - married Alice, nee Shaw, later Herling. She was the daughter of Mary Jane Herling (see above).  Thanks to K.H. a relative, for this information.

1940 - 48           John Brooks

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WANTED, A general, able to wash.  Apply Butcher and Commercial, Cattle Market, Preston.

Lancashire Evening Post   27th June 1903

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TO BE LET:   BUTCHER and COMMERCIAL HOTEL, near Cattle Market, Preston. Good Tying-up and Baiting accommodation. Splendid opening for pushing man.          Apply W and J. Sumner, Fulwood

Lancashire Evening Post   1st November 1906

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PRESTON  PUBLICAN'S  LOSSES.

Did not believe his successor's Statements.

"Bad Trade" was alleged by Richard Swift, beer-seller, 41 Ripon Street, Preston, and lately carrying on business at the Butchers' and Commercial Hotel, 360 Brook Street, Preston, which was the cause of his failure, which was investigated at the Preston Bankruptcy Court, this morning, before Mr  Registrar 

Dickson.

Debtors gross liabilities were stated at £135. 6s., and his deficiency was £108. 7s 4d.  In his statement, the debtor said that he took the hotel in July, 1905.  He then had £50, and borrowed £60 from the owners, a brewery company. Previously, the debtor had been a butcher in St. Stephen's Road, Preston.

He was closely questioned by the Official Receiver, (Mr. C H Plant), about his business transactions, and said that the takings at the hotel averaged £5 a week, as he scarcely got through two barrels of beer in that period.

Mr. Plant: "How is it that the present tenant says that the takings at £17 to £18 per week now?" He replied, "I don't believe it."

"But the takings are there to be seen."  "I don't believe it."

"We might say that we do not believe you. The present tenant says he is doing that trade."  "He might say it, but the house has never done that trade."

Proceeding, the debtor said that when the valuation was made on his leaving the hotel, the brewery company got the money, though he told them he had other creditors.

Mr. Plant: "Did you press them to let you handle the money and pay something to the other creditors?"  "No."

"Did you think that was fair it should happen?"   "No."

"The brewery have also drawn £31 for some pigs you had. Did you think that was right?"   "No. I told them I had some other creditors."

Replying to Mr. Craven (who represented him), the debtor said that he had been persuaded to go into the hotel, which was tied.

"How long had the last tenant been in?" "About two years."

"Was he done up when he left?" "Partly, he has had to start working since."

"Can you give any explanation as to why trade has fallen off?" "No, except it was that people got into debt with me and then stayed away."

"What was the pressure put on you by the brewery company?"

"They asked me when they could draw this money."

"Was that all?"   "Yes."

"Had any proceedings been threatened at that time?"  "No."

"Then you and the company's representative arranged this between you without reference to the other creditors?" "Yes."

Mr. Craven: "A nice arrangement indeed!"

The Official Receiver asked that the debtor supply a cash account and trading account for a year, the Registrar granting the application.

The examination was adjourned until January 10th.

Mr. Ambler represented a creditor.

Lancashire Evening Post   6th December 1907

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The Butchers & Commercial was situated on Brook Street. This pub closed in 1964.

Source: Richard Richmond

The Butchers & Commercial was owned and run by my great-grandmother, Mary Jane Herling (1860-1949) from at least 1911 to 1927. Her husband George Herling held the license until he died in 1914. After Mary Jane retired the license was held for a time by F Roberts. It seems to have disappeared in about 1964, probably as a result of the widening of Addison (later Blackpool) Road. It was on the corner with Brook Street and also had the address of 360 Brook Street. It was still listed in the 1964 telephone directory, with the number Preston 53787. It was a three storey building with attached stables, probably built originally to service the local cattle market. Now part of the site is occupied by Budget Van Rentals.                                                                              Ken Herlinshaw (2011)

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CENSUS RETURNS

1871

John Aspden                55 years                     Beerseller                       b. Rishton

Mary Aspden               42                              Wife                               b. Sawley

Mary J. Aspden            16                              Daughter                        b. Blackburn

Martin Aspden              15                              Son                                         do

1881

James Wilkinson          37 years                      Lic. Vict.                       b. Chipping

Margaret Wilkinson     42                                Wife                             b. Goosnargh

Alfred Wilkinson          22                               Son / Butcher                           do

1891

Thomas Johnson          44 years                      Publican                         b. Salesbury, Wilpshire

Ellen Johnson               50                               Wife                              b. Preston

Mary A. Johnson         21                                Daughter                                do

James Johnson             18                                Son                                        do

Robert Johnson            15                                Son                                        do

1901

George Thistleton         49 years                     Publican                          b. Preston

Elizabeth J. Thistleton    52                             Wife                                         do

1911

George Millwood Herling   37 years               Publican                         b. Coltershire (Colchester) Essex

Mary Jane Herling             35                         Wife / Proprietress       b. Hoker Hill (Oker Hill) Derbyshire

James Herling                    15                   Son / School                       b. Manchester

George Herling                  12                   Son / School                       b. Bolton

Annie Herling                     8               Daughter / School                            do

Joseph Bamber                 21            Servant / Horse or Cow man      b. Preston

Sarah Hardman                21                  Servant / Barmaid                 b. Garstang

Mary Ann Mitchell           58                      House Servant                  b. Preston

Jane Dunckley                 56                      House Servant                           do

Alice Roscoe                   40                           Visitor                         b. Tarvon (Tarvin?) Cheshire   

   It is believed that Mary Jane H. was more like 50 or 51 years of age

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