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Friday 31 August 2012

PRINCE ALBERT HOTEL (Sumner's), Watling Street Road

PRINCE ALBERT HOTEL   #
later  SUMNER'S HOTEL
Watling Street Road, Fulwood.
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Strictly speaking outside the borough, but only the length of a football field outside it!
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This image has travelled all the way from Virginia, USA., from
a descendant of Edward Milward Herling. His brother George Milward Herling was the landlord of the "Butchers and Commercial" at the junction of Brook Street and Blackpool Road.
Click here to see further interesting and detailed
 history of the Sumner's and the Herling family.
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This image comes courtesy of Preston Digital Archive's Flickr
Account.

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Photo:  Steve Halliwell
The original Sumner's Hotel adjoined the gable-end that is visible to the left of the current hotel.
It's in an unmissable situation at the busy junction of Watling Street Road and Deepdale Road,  now known as Sir Tom Finney Way.
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Not surprisingly, it is a popular venue for fans of Preston North End prior to their home games.
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MINE HOSTS:
............as The Prince Albert Hotel.
1843 - 52             Ann Seddon
1852                    W. W. Benson
1857                    Mrs Peggy Curl - the licence was probably held by William Sumner. Mrs Curl was his
                                                          mother-in-law. 
1866 - 97            William Sumner

..........as The Sumner's Hotel.  ** see note below.
1897 - 17               Edward Milward Herling
1932 - 40               John Richmond
2007 - the present  Joanne Bridge
1944                      Thomas Davenport
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Brief messages from readers:
     ** Your site implies that the Prince Albert became Sumners in 1897. However, I came 
     across the prosecution of Edward Hurling (i.e. Herling) of the Prince Albert 
     Hotel on January 2nd 1901 for arsenic in beer (something that was widespread at 
     the time, mainly due to purchased glucose used in beer making).
     So presumably the name change was later than that.  K.H.
  If anyone can give a more precise date of the change, it would be appreciated.
It might also be remembered that the "Horse and Farrier" in Kilshaw Street, off
North Road, was known simply as "SCRAGGS" long before the death of it's long-time
landlord, Stephen Scragg.  Could it have been a similar story here?

Please let me know.

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My GGGG Uncle, Andrew Halliday, (1810-1851) land surveyor, tax assessor for Preston, Poor Law Guardian, Member of the Preston Institute etc built the Prince Albert Hotel during 1843. The Preston Chronicle of 30th December "To be Let by private treaty, All that newly erected Hotel at Fulwood near to the intended barracks - for particulars and treaty apply Mr A Halliday, Land Agent, Chapel Walks Preston" - in 1849 at a discussion regarding the building of the barracks he was again cited in the Preston Chronicle as the builder of the pub. I presume he had dealings with Mrs Seddon who took on a brand new building! 
From 'Mrs B.'    ….Thankyou
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Preston Chronicle   23rd May 1846
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Preston Chronicle  13th November 1847
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Preston Chronicle 4th December 1847
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Preston Chronicle 9th February 1850
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Preston Chronicle  22nd March 1851
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Preston Chronicle 28th February 1852
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Preston Chronicle  20th March 1852
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Preston Chronicle 15th December 1855
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Preston Chronicle 24th December 1857
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Preston Chronicle 28th July 1860
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Preston Chronicle 12th October 1861
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Preston Chronicle  25th June 1862
There was an erratum in the following week's paper stating that the above
article should have read the "Prince Albert Hotel" Fulwood.
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Preston Chronicle 6th December 1862
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Preston Chronicle  3rd September 1864
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Preston Chronicle  6th January 1866
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Preston Chronicle 9th June 1866
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Preston Chronicle 13th April 1867
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 Preston Chronicle 16th June 1866
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Preston Chronicle  18th May 1867
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Preston Guardian  9th May 1868
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Preston Guardian  21st August 1869 
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Preston Guardian  28th August 1869
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Preston Guardian  18th July 1874
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Preston Guardian  29th July 1871
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Preston Guardian 10th July 1875
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Preston Chronicle  2nd October 1875
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Preston Chronicle 27th May 1876
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Preston Chronicle  5th August 1876
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Preston Chronicle 10th July 1880
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Preston Guardian  17th September 1881
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Preston Chronicle 2nd February 1884
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Preston Chronicle  7th June 1890
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Preston Chronicle  6th December 1890
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At this stage it isn't known exactly when William
Sumner sold and left the Prince Albert Hotel, but 
in 1897 legal action was being considered against
him because his brewing activities were polluting
the nearby Eaves Brook. The action, however, was
deferred because he claimed that he had sold his
licensed property.
His wife, Jane, died in the same year, so maybe that
loss triggered his decision to sell up.
Information from Ken Herlingshaw, Virginia, USA
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Taken from a 1935 Preston North End Match Day programme.
Supplied by Ian Rigby, PNE Official Historian.
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CENSUS RETURNS
1851
Ann Seddon                        48 years Widow        Innkeeper                           b. Bury
Elizabeth Ann Seddon         21                              Daughter                            b. Preston
Ann Seddon                       19                              Daughter                                   do
Emma Seddon                    17                              Daughter                                   do
Amelia Seddon                   17                              Daughter                                   do
Thomas Yates                     61  widower              Farm Servant                      b. Broughton
John Woof                          21                             Ostler                                 b. Preston

1861
William Sumner                   34 years                    Victualler                             b. Withnell
Jane Sumner                       26                              Wife                                   b. Burnley
Elizabeth Curl                     19                              Servant / Barmaid                        do
Michael Loftus                    28                             General Servant                  b. Co. Sligo
Peggy Curl                         63                              General Servant                  b. Baxendale
Richard Burns                    40                              General Servant                  b. Newchurch
Sarah Granville                  18                               General Servant                 b.      ?
Mary Cushian                    30                              General Servant                  b. Limerick
John Ingham                       2                                Nephew                            b. London, Middlesex
William Fletcher                 33                              Retired Major
William Summersville ?       28                              Lieut. 29th Reg't       

1871
William Sumner                  44 years                    Innkeeper and Landowner  b. Withnell
Jane Sumner                      36                              Wife                                 b. Burnley
William Sumner                   5                              Son                                   b. Fulwood
Kathleen Sumner                 2                              Daughter                                    do
Peggy Curl                        67                              Visitor                              b. Haslingden
Matthew Salthouse            40                              General Domestic Servant b. Lytham
Agnes Colthurst                 26                              Domestic Servant             b. Preston
Louisa Taylor                     11                             Domestic Servant             b. London, Middlesex
Eliza Blackburn                  18                             Domestic Servant             b. Ulverston
Richard Sumner                 19                              Servant / Shopman          b. Tockholes
John C. K. Warneford       20                              Lodger / Lieut. 6th           b. Halifax
                                                                            West Yorks Militia   

1881
William Sumner                 54 years                     Hotel Keeper                   b. Withnell
Jane Sumner                     48                              Wife                                 b. Burnley
William Sumner                 15                              Son / Scholar                   b. Fulwood
Sarah Sumner                   13                              Daughter / Scholar                     do
Jane Sumner                     10                              Daughter / Scholar                     do
John Sumner                      3                               Son                                           do
Peggy Curl                       74                               Mother-in-law / Widow   b. Haslingden
Phoebe Walsh                  64                               Servant / Widow             b. Leeds
Mary Richmond               40                               Servant                            b. Whittingham
Ann Kelly                        65                                Servant / Widow             b. Scotland
Rose Rogers                    19                               Servant                            b. Whitehaven
Louisa Taylor                   22                               Servant                            b. London, Middlesex
William Ainsworth            72                               Servant                           b. Salmesbury
David Sherrington            58                               Servant / Widower           b. Birmingham
John White                      22                               Brewer                            b. Ulverston
G. M. McDowell             42                               Doctor / Widower           b. London / Middlesex
James Jones                     20                              Civil Engineer                   b. Oxford
George Brian                   16                               Groom / Domestic Servant  b. Brighton

1891
William Sumner               64 years                      Publican / Brewer /          b. Withnell
                                                                          Farmer / Army Contractor
Jane Sumner                   56                                Wife                               b. Burnley
William Sumner              25                                 Son                                b. Fulwood
John Sumner                   13                                Son                                         do
Cissy Sumner                  23                                Daughter                                 do
Jane Sumner                   19                                Daughter                                 do 
Sarah Sumner                 14                                Niece                                      do
Elizabeth Sumner            49                                Sister-in-law  /  Widow   b. Burnley
Mary Richmond             51                                 Barmaid                         b. Haighton
Nancy Webb                 35                                 Niece                             b. Preston
Louisa Emily Taylor        31                                Cook                              b. London, Middlesex
Elizabeth Arnold             25                                Housemaid                      b. Aldershot
Margaret Singleton         49                                Housemaid                      b. Haighton
Edward M. Herling         21                               Assistant                          b. Bombay, India
Charles William Parker   29                                Brewer                           b. Salford
Susan E. Phillips             29                                Lodger                            b. Sydenham, Kent   
Edith M. Phillips             25                                Living on own means       b. Ormesby, Yorks
Louisa M. Knapp          22                                 Servant                           b. Barnack, Northants.

1901
Edward Herling             31 years                       Hotel Proprietor               b. India
Elizabeth Herling            32                                Wife                                b. Chipping
Edward Herling              1                                 Son                                  b. Fulwood
Francis Herling              23                                Sister                               b. Fulwood
Emma G. King              27                                Servant / Barmaid            b. Burnley
George Walmsley          22                                Servant / Barman             b. Preston      **see below
William Cronan             15                                Servant / Barman             b. Fulwood
Georgina Nicol              26                                Servant / Housemaid       b. Liverpool

1911        
Edward Herling             41 years                      Hotel Proprietor               b. India
Elizabeth Herling           42                                Wife                                b. Chipping
Edward Herling **          11                               Son / Scholar                   b. Fulwood
George Herling               8                                Son / Scholar                            do
Annie Sweedy               20                               Boarder                           b. Chipping
Elizabeth Arnold            44                               Servant                            b. Aldershot
James Gar                     28                               Chaffeur                          b. London  

** Edward (John Millward) Herling died on the 19th December 1959 at the Deepdale Football Stadium. 
 He was watching Chelsea beat P.N.E. 5 goals to 4.  I was there as well, and it was a bit of a heart-stopper.
 I seem to remember that the return fixture was a 4 - 4 draw, with a certain Jimmy Greaves scoring eight of their goals, including all five at Preston!!!
            
**  George Walmsley married Edward Herling's sister Frances later in 1901, and they went to    
                                                 take over the Selborne Hotel in James Street.
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Sunday 12 August 2012

DOG AND DUCK, Marsh Lane

DOG AND DUCK
Marsh Lane
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MINE HOST:
1850     Mr. Newton
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The 'FOX AND DUCK' in Croft Street (off Marsh Lane) opened
around this time. The landlord (and owner of the property) was
John Newton. Possibly he had a beer-house with a similar name prior
to taking that on, or perhaps there's an error in the reporting.

To balance that, the name came up twice within 5 months, although
the second report doesn't mention Marsh Lane.

Any help appreciated!
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Preston Chronicle 23rd February 1850
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Preston Chronicle 27th July 1850
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